Call for iPod alternative

After several rounds of fighting against Apple’s iTunes database, we decide to stop following any further variations of the new database format. Instead, we are looking for alternatives of the iPod application on iPhone/iTouch.

Our plan is to provide an open, efficient and easy-to-use solution for obtaining and enjoying video and music on iPhone. The key of the solution is to establish an open, flexible and efficient standard of playlist exchange format, which describes a list of the video and music on iPhone and their associated information such as album title, cover and the year of publish. Such a standard bridges the mediaplayer on iPhone and File browsers on PC/Mac and provides the seamless user experience of copy-and-play of media files in any format. On the other hand, we are open to alternative ideas.

We are calling for collaborations with iPhone developers who are working on mediaplayer/file browser. We are working on a dedicate edition of the ifunbox to convert and transfer media files from PC/Mac to iPhone via high-speed USB connection.

78 Responses to “Call for iPod alternative”

  1. blues Says:

    i don’t really like this solution… as good as the player could get (there are some around), it could never replace the ipod app.

  2. S Says:

    I would disagree with the above and would most certainly welcome this solution. Please proceed.

  3. Mark Says:

    I am having problems with the latest (sept 28th 3.1 FW) and iFun-Box giving me error ” iTunes Database on this device not configurable)

  4. A.W Says:

    Been looking for a solution mentioned in the post ever since I had an Ipod touch. PwnPlayer was ‘ok’ and on the plus side it supports folder browsing + playlist but it was unstable…

  5. ro Says:

    Just wanted to say thanks this is a wonderful program!!! i backed up my bosses touch no prob.
    COunldnt find anything else like it to work on a touch!
    thanks
    again

  6. Martin Says:

    I for one, would be happy to see progress made on a third party mobile player that allows a bit more freedom and flexibility…without constant updating and modification by apples team of knob fiddlers.

    Remember though, that progress is also being on a port of linux, probably starting with android on the iPhone platform, so media management wise, we may soon have a few more options

    Very impressed with your work so far, hope to continue with this

  7. Needcrack Says:

    I’m using jailbrake ipod touch 2g os 3.0 and itunes 8.2, when tried to upload movies iFun-Box giving me error ” iTunes Database on this device not configurable) . please advise

  8. a[x]el Says:

    2Needcrack: Did you read the news?
    itunes 8.2 do not supported and it will be not supported in the future because they tired to fighting with the itunes database format.

    As for ipod alternative - its a good idea, but only in case when the basics of the ipod will be realised in the opensource player with the good usability.

  9. Coolmat Says:

    Maybe you can check with the SharePod library!

  10. KPAH Says:

    And I’m tired of battling the iPhone.
    Each and every simple action available eslewhere turns to a pain in the ass. Copying music - what could be simplier? why the need for a monster like itunes?
    No usb-storage,non-standart 30-pin cable, no proxy support for emai or IM protocols over wifi, no ad-hoc-wifi, very poor ad2p, ugly filesystem access and insane limitations.
    waiting for a suitable MAEMO-based phone for a shift.
    No more . I’m out.

  11. KPAH Says:

    By the way, apple is removing DRM from ITUNES store
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7837605.stm
    does that mean that eventually ipod will be abble to play filesystem files?

  12. Dude with an idea Says:

    try out dtunes its an ipod alternative
    i use it when i download movies from the interweb

  13. Carlos Says:

    Just so you guys now, this doesn’t work with the 3.1.2 Firmware Stock/Jailbroken.

  14. zesteph Says:

    hello
    i m confirme, don t work with 3.1.2 firmware JB :(
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  15. awesome Says:

    http://code.google.com/p/iphonebrowser/issues/detail?id=153#c5
    Use this to fix iFunBox on 3.1.2.

  16. Mike Says:

    As for the download music from iTouch/iPhone it shouldn’t be such a big problem.
    Databases are sqlite3 without login/password. Files are just files, only names are changed. Names are in the Library.itdb, local name and directory (in format Fxx/YYYY.mp3) are in the Locations.itdb. Both name and local filename are connected with unique PID.
    Maybe you can implement just downloading media files? It would be a great help in doing full backup of iTuoch/iPhone in case of harddisk breakdown. Files restored in that way can be easili reuploaded by iTunes.

    The problem with uploading media via iFunBox of course is a lot harder…

  17. Samuel Says:

    PwnPlayer is currently the best player for the iPod Touch/iPhone, and it is now compatible with software version 3. It is fast but lacks the features of the iPod’s built-in player.

    If someone were to develop a new player, it would need to (at the least) have:

    Playback of MP3s from file system and run in the background
    Sort by Album/Artist/Genre (where available) using some sort of database
    Be able to change it’s storage directory (and have this change recognized by iFunBox)
    Run fast enough and bug-free enough to be useful (so that’s dTunes gone)

    But it would be cool if it had some of the features of the v2 version of PwnPlayer such as Lockscreen Gesture Controls as well. Also a skinnable interface would be awesome.

    Have you got any replys to your proposal yet?

  18. Samuel Says:

    Now that I think about it, one of the key features would be that it would have to be able to open inside other applications, like the current player can from v3 onwards. Some games have an option for custom music and (naturally) opens the default iPod music player. There would need to be a way to override that function and redirect it to the new player. Otherwise people would have to put all their music on iTunes and the new player, which an 8Gb iPod won’t really like!

  19. soulution found - JB! Says:

    the only solution is: (think twice about it->) good bye apple !! hello nokia n900 !!
    n900 is linux based and open source (maemo 5). we, the customers, need to pay back what apple is doing with us. as I wrote, think twice, you dece here e et is going in which direction…

    JB

  20. Lonestar Says:

    Please, add scrobbling functions, to use Last.fm features!

  21. Samuel Says:

    Is there any news on this yet?

  22. Niels Says:

    Hi,

    I am having big problems with your program (no jailbreak used)

    I can’t reLY see any files on the IPOD except a few music filed.
    Noting can be copied from the PC to th eipod (at least not in a way so that it is visible with th eIPOD)

    Is this normal ?

    Br

    Niels

  23. Ho Says:

    After I use iFunbox to upload a song to my 2.2 iphone, I respring my phone, all the music cannot appear, even I still can see them in iFunbox windows panel.

    Please help. Thanks.

  24. Top 40 tube Says:

    Just got my iPod touch on saturday and come accross this which is great. I hate iTunes. There is already an app on Cydia called pwnplayer which works beautifully, although I’d fully support another app as that one is in beta and no longer being developed!

    JackLloyd.

  25. Lonestar Says:

    Dtunes is better that Pwnplayer, for 3.x users!

  26. Isra Says:

    Hey .. i just upgraded my computer to windows 7 and lost all the music on it ..

    but i still have it on my iphone and i was wondering if i could restore the songs to my computer through the iphone ..

    thankss

  27. raichand Says:

    hey!!
    im using i funbox version 0.9 and jailbreaked iphone 3gs 3.0.1
    there is section of music and video under iphone in this software… accidently i have put one movie .avi format into that section and the problem is dat now my 1gb of space is lost and im unable to see where it is actually now in my iphone .how can i recover dat space???? or to delete dat video…
    plz help me out…… hoping to get positive replies…….

  28. A-Khan Says:

    i actully ran into a problem with this… I transferrred some songs with ifunbox when it sayed itunes is not recognizable now i cant find the songs on the program or on the iphones how do i get rid of them because they are taking up space on my iphone

  29. goodidea Says:

    I definitely agree with the idea, please fill us in with any details if some developers join the cause.

    Good initiative.

  30. LUIS Says:

    The software i-funbox is not working with 3.0 firmware …. If anyone knows the solution or the new download could you please let me know? lgpascual_yahoo.com TKS !!!!

  31. Samuel Says:

    It will work with 3.0 - but if you use BlackRa1n to JB then you will need to install a file from Cydia to fix it and access the whole filesystem. You also need to upgrade iTunes and iFunbox to their respective latest versions, otherwise you may have two incompatible versions (iFunbox uses iTunes files to connect with the iPod.)

  32. Peter Kang Says:

    Can you advise me how to restore the iFunbox screen on my PC to default as your web site shown?
    Thanks in advance.

    Peter.

  33. johnliu Says:

    Dear Team,

    I need your help! my i phone is 3gs, somehow, I can not use i-funbox on it! what should i do? is there any possible for my iphone 3gs to use i-funbox?
    thank u very much

  34. Jitesh Rathod Says:

    Dear Team,
    I need your help please I copy songs (all are m4r format) in to my Ringtones folder and when I disconnected my phone and go to setting sounds and try to select the song nothing happens. it does not play. what can I do please.
    Thanks very much
    Jit

  35. links of london Says:

    There would need to be a way to override that function and redirect it to the new player. Otherwise people would have to put all their music on iTunes and the new player, which an 8Gb iPod won’t really like!

  36. THZEI Says:

    I am not a code level developer. I just want to say thanks to you guys for making this wonderful program which should have been done by APPLE. It is working perfectly for me so now I don’t really use WinSCP unless i need terminal access. Thanks guys and I hope that this will last!

  37. quinlo Says:

    I think a third party media player capable of easier, less restricting, file transfer (both wifi and usb) would be an amazing application to have. It could also be added upon to incorporate features/plugins: ie. lyrics, news on the artist, touring info… the possibilities are endless. I fully support the direction this is headed in. GOOD THINGS.. GOOD THINGS!

  38. geekgrrl Says:

    I convert all my music to AAC using iTunes offline.

    I convert DVD’s video whatever to H.264 using xVid4PSP 5.0

    I have dTunes. I have iFile. Both are found in Cydia.

    I am happy.

  39. geekgrrl Says:

    I forgot to add. have iFunbox.

    I am happy. : D

  40. Joe Says:

    How about adding an option in iFunbox that will allow us to change file attributes such as owner etc…

  41. AMOLED Says:

    I can’t access music backup

    the error which is becase of runtime error is always occurred

    i need solution

    plz help me

  42. Part-L compliance Says:

    I just love iPhone this is the best phone that made as of now. I need to get the new IPad as well.

  43. somone Says:

    anything to rid us once and for all from iTunes is greatly encouraged.

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